This is a conversation with Aurora, IL-based manufacturing unicorn Ray Ziganto. We actually started out discussing Wayne’s World, which is set in Aurora, but because it became a discussion about Chicago vs. the rest of Illinois and it was interesting to me but probably wouldn’t be interesting to anyone else, I cut that out. Instead, I got down to about 45 solid minutes of discussion on jobs, jobs now, jobs of the future, pivotal moments in one’s life, being international, the role of learning in companies these days, migratory patterns, and more. It’s a cool convo. You can pick your preferred player at this link, or listen right here: