I initially heard this guest, James Hollis, on The Art of Manliness podcast. That episode was on finding meaning in the second half of life. Hollis is a Jungian therapist, i.e. Carl Jung. We don’t get into a tremendous amount of Jungian stuff here, but we talk about meaning throughout life, masculinity, and the ability to be with oneself in a quiet room. Having been divorced and trying to cope with that reality, I can tell you that’s a very real measure of a man. This episode is only about 20 minutes, so give it a whirl when you can.
The Blunder Years, Episode 42: Being with yourself in a quiet room
